US-Iraqi women’s conference– Part 2

… Monday afternoon, I took a bit of time out from the US-Iraq women’s
conference I was at to sit in a wifi zone in the hotel there and write up this JWN
post about the conference.  It seems that while I was away, the
differences of opinion that I had noted there between the Iraqi
invitees– and principally, the difference between those who stayed in
Iraq throughout the whole sanctions era and those who lived as exiles
in those years– became much more pointed… to the extent that
participants in this “peace” gathering had been standing up, yelling
at each other, and threatening to walk out.

I guess the organizers and a couple of the US invitees intervened to
try to calm things down.  When I got back there, the Benedictine US nun
Sr. Joan Chittester, one of the organizers, was saying some pacific
things about “well, now you’ve seen how democracy works.  Everyone
has to at least stay and listen to everyone else’s point of view.”

That evening, there were a lot of inter-religious peacemakery things
organized.  I’m not entirely sure about the cultural context of
having people watch two women performing a classical Indian dance…
The dance was fairly pretty to watch, but personally I was extremely
hungry at that point (7:30 p.m.) having been up since 6 a.m.

Then yesterday morning we were back in the conference room again. 
For that session, which was billed as lasting from 9 a.m. through 1
p.m.–with no break anywhere along the way!  can you imagine?–
the moderator was Kate Snow, another rising female star at ABC News who
co-anchors the weekend edition of their morning show and was previously
their White House correspondent.

Snow is another smart young network-groomed woman, like Elizabeth Vargas
yesterday.  But completely out of her depth in this context, since
it didn’t take long before the (purely rhetorical) sparks began to fly
there.  This session had been billed as having six Iraqi women
speakers talking about “Fostering people-to-people dialogue: Changing attitudes
and misperceptions”.

The third of the speakers was Dr.
Katrin Michael, 
a Christian woman from the north of Iraq
who had joined the Kurdish opposition in 1982; fled the country in 1988
after having survived a chemical weapons attack (date and details of
which, uncertain); ended up in Algeria; barely escaped the
fundamentalist violence there; ended up as a resettled refugee in
Washington DC in 1997…  Where she still lives.  Nowadays,
she does research there on Iraqi women’s issues.

Her presentation was stridently “exilist”.  She ended up
making a loud appeal for Americans to join in fighting against the
“terrorists” in Iraq, and said “we Iraqis are in the front line against
the terrorists”.  (She didn’t note that there had been no jihadist
militants in Iraq prior to the US invasion of 2003, whereas now,
evidently, there are… ) 

She declared loudly a number of times that “I have forgiven”  the
people who had harmed her earlier.  But honestly, the general
tenor of her very accusatory presentation indicated strongly to me that
there are plenty of people whom she has not even come close to
forgiving.  Again and again, at one point, she said “I am a
victim; I am a victim; I am a victim!”  (I felt like saying to
her, “Katrin, my dear, I heard you the first time.  You are a
victim.  But you know what?  At this point, everyone in Iraq
is feeling very hurt, wounded, and fearful.  Everyont there is a
victim.  And you’re living there in Washington DC… “)

Michael, Lamia Talebani
(who spoke a little later) and
Judge Zakia Hakki
(who spoke Monday– and again yesterday) were the most ardent representatives of what I
call the Iraqi  “exilist” viewpoint, that is, the view of those
who (1) had spent the 1990s in exile, (2) had been among those most strongly
advocating the use of US power to overtthrow the Saddamist regime, and
who (3) until today remain supportive of  the 2003 invasion even if
criticial of some of the details of  subsequent US actions in
Iraq.  (Hakki did voice some such criticisms; so did
Talebani.  They have both lived for at least part of the time
since 2003 inside Iraq.  Katrin Michael, who has not spent time in Iraq since 200,3 did not voice any such
criticisms .)

But before I  describe the argument, let me give a quick digest of
what all the speakers on the main panel said.


First up was Adiba Hussain,
a business woman and property owner who started off by saying “I never
left Baghdad… even in 2003 I stayed in Baghdad.”  Her
presentation was mainly on the needs of women business owners. 
She said quite forthrightly that the main thing hapering all business
owners in Iraq was “the terrible effects of insecurity on the whole
business community.”  She mentioned the widespread climate of
threats made against the persons and properties of business owners and
the resulting flight of large amounts of Iraqi capital to neighboring
countries.

The next speaker was Zainab
al-Suwaij
, the Iraqi-born executive director of the American
Islkamic Congress, which she described as promoting a liberal version
of Islam.  She had been born in Basra and had joined the uprising
against Saddam that the Shiites there had launched in 1991, fleeing
after it was violently suppressed by Saddam.

I should say that though; Suwaij had almost certainly been one of
those exiles advocating  the US invasion of Iraq, she did not
present herself as ideologically strident. At one
pouint she said quite calmly (and probably, accurately),

In 2003, the majority of Iraqis in south and north looked at what the US did as a liberation, but the majority in the south and center of the
country now look at it as an occupation… But whether
it’s an occupation or a liberation we have to look at what we can do
now

She said the AIC has been running programs in a number of parts of the
country since 2003:

I’ve been leading many sectors there
including our programs in the education sector, including both
curriculum
reform and the refurbishment of schools.  We’ve refurbished around
4,000 schools at this point.  We also have a program
to bring school dropouts back to schools.  We brought more than
8,000 dropouts back to school.  We gave those students two years
to catch up–  and the passing rate
when we assessed them at the end of that was 97%.  I remember one
21-yr-old woman who insisted on joining our program though it wasn’t
meant to be for adults.  She learned to read &
write, and at the end she said,  “Thank you: I used to be blind
but now I can see.”

She said the AIC had also lobbied during the Constitution-writing
process for a quota for women in all governorate councils of 40%. 
(“But we only got 25%.”)

Suwaij concluded by saying the Iraqi women’s two main needs at this
point are: (1) economic empowerment, and (2) building a women’s peace
movement, “to help us resolve the post-conflict situation and to help
us heal us heal our souls.”

Then, there was Katrin Michael.

Then we had Buthaina Suhail,
an extremely elegantly hijab-ed woman, described as the President of
the “Iraqi Family Society”.

She told us her uncle had been killed by Saddam Hussein in
Lebanon.  She said, “”Most of the Iraqi people are with the new
government…” The general tenor of her presentation was to admit
that,  yes, it’s true there are people who have been made into
widows and orphans since 2003– but there many more who suffered those
things before 2003.  “And now at least we have women who are ministers and
MPs; women allowed to travel, and so on.”  She made an appeal
against the “terrorists”, but it was far less strident than Katrin
Michael’s.

Then we heard from Lamia
Talebani
, an agronomist who is also an artist who had spent most
of the years 1963-2003.  (Apparently also a relative of PUK head
Jalal Talebani.  I wish I’d asked her to confirm this in person.)

She made an eloquent and well organized presentation in which she
talked about Iraq’s neighbors thus:

we have two extreme theocratic states:
Iran and
Saudia Arabia; also, there Syria with the same Baathists ruling there
as used to rule in Iraq; and then Jordan and Kuwait.  Both Iran
and Saudia have been trying to force
their vision on us.  Turkey, another neighbor, is an extreme
nationalist statewhich not a good
model for us because we are multiethnic– and it’s probably not good
for them, either…

She warned about the danger that, “the Americans are trying to have
relations with people who hate America,
and have even started talking  with the  terrorists who are
fighting them rather
than supporting their natural cultural allies.”

Her category of ‘America’s natural cultural allies’ was an interesting
one., that I would have liked to probe more.  It seemed (by
inference) to comprise mainly secular-minded liberals.

But she was clearly feeling under threat.  She said, “The only
option for people who are American cultural allies in Iraq today is to
choose between death, exile, and silence.”

She did however say soon after that she judged that “civil war is
impossible. There have always been conflicts
in Iraq between culturally liberal people and religious extremists–
since the
1940s.”

The last speaker was a  very elegantly dressed (no hijab) younger
woman called Murooj Muneeb
al-Hadethee
, who said she had lived in Iraq “for the past five
years”.  She is a partner in a company called the Collage Group,
which is (I think) mainly Indian in ownership.  She said
that  one of the main grievances in the Iraqi business community
was that the big US prime contracting firms (“Bechtel, for example”)
don’t issue subcontracts directly to Iraqi firms for all their projects
in Iraq, but rather, issue them to firms from other countries,
inserting sometimes several layers of sub- and sub-contracters between
the sums that Bechtel has to spread around and the Iraqi firms that are
left at the bottom of the heap.

For example, a Kuwaiti or Jordanian
company takes the contract than Iraqi company
takes subcontract from them.  The foreign company takes $100,000
profit
and the Iraqi company takes only $10,000.

Anyway, the morning’s discussion was supposed to be mainly about
identifying and discussing the concrete needs of Iraqi women’s
organizations, so that in the afternoon the US invitees could start
discussing how they could start to help meet some of these needs.

But we never really got to the discussion planned for the morning, at
all.  Katrin Michael and Zakia Hussain got into a real shouting
match against Faiza al-Araji and a woman called Entisar al-Ariabi, who has
been here in the US for activities
organized by the strongly anti-war organization Code Pink. 

Ariabi
was every bit as strident– speaking from the floor– as Katrin Michael
was, from the panelists’s elevated dais. She stood up at the
table where she was seated and started objecting to the use of the term
“liberate” and other claims that Michael had made.  She said all
Iraq’s probalems had stemmed from the occupation and called for the
withdrawal of US troops.

I was seated at the same table as Zakia Hussain.  She rose to her
feet and started yelling back, acusing everyone who called the US
presence of being an “occupation” of ignoring Saddam’s  many
crimes and indeed of having profited personally from them. 

Faiza stood up and said, “I’ll say it again: I am glad that Saddam is
gone– but how many times do you want us all to say that? We didn’t
have to have a US invasion to get rid of him.  And now look what
the US occupation is doing to our country.  The US troops should
get out– now!”

Poor old Kate Snow, sitting there in front of us in her fastidiously
streaked and coiffed hair, had completely lost control of
everything… And indeed, though the discussion stumbled along a little
more after that, it completely fizzled out before noon and we were all
given a very long lunch break….

In the afternoon session, the organizers made an attempt to get people
refocused on “concrete projects”.  I have to say I’m very familiar
with this tactic, which was one of the main organizing principles of
Search for Common Ground, when I was trying to run their
non-governmental conflict resolution project in the Middle East 
back in 1991-93.  Sort of, “If the big political conflicts look
unsolvable let’s try to ‘build relationships’ through working on some
uncontroversial (and often fairly trivial) things instead.”

I’m still a believer in some parts of this approach.  But I really
don’t think– whether with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
or the intra-Iraqi conflict, or probably, conflicts anywhere else– that you can
do anything of lasting value through such projects unless the “big” political
conflict is also resolved, too.  Exhibit number 1 in theis regard:
the whole flurry of post-Oslo ‘confidence-building’ ventures at all
levels…. and the collapse they all experienced with the collapse of
the official peace talks in late 2000.

Also, though I believe strongly in talking to and listening to
everyone, including those with whose views I very strongly disagree,
still, I think when you’re building a coalition to actually do
something, especially something political like building a coalition against war and
military occupation
, then you shouldn’t plan on including
absolutely everyone within this coalition; otherwise you (we) would end
up getting nowhere..

I’m not sure how the end of the conference came out, since I had to
leave at 3:45 p.m.  People were sitting around tables again at
that point, with each table hosting a discussion on possible projects
in specific sectors  I am still not sure what was actually
agreed.  GPIW has nothing up on their website yet about
that.  But I’ll try to let you know as soon as I learn anything.

… Anyway, I have lots more thoughts based on my experience at the
GPIW conference.  One has to do with the absolutely necessary,
organic link between any attempt to impose rule through foreign military
domination and the spreading of financial corruption
amongst all participants in this venture.

A number of the Iraqi women at the conference spoke about the
debilitating effects– for business owners and for all other Iraqis–
of the corruption that has become so omnipresent in their society since
2003.  It was the same story with the Fateh-led administration in post-1994
Palestine, of course.

Well, what do you expect– if you have a governing mechanism that is not,
actually, accountable to the people over whom it rules and whose
interests it claims to represent– but whose interests it is actually,
on a daily basis, continuing to ignore
?  Such a governing
mechanism is one that is built centrally on a lie.  And
participants in it cannot afford to allow the light of day to shine on
the various payoffs and bribes they have received, that induced
them to participate in it…

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