Rafsanjani: “Let’s negotiate”

Iran’s Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani is akin to that old advertising pitch for E.F. Hutton: when he speaks, people listen… or at least they should. It’s so much “easier” for the western MSM to quote the incendiary comments by Iran’s current President. Besides, if you want to support going to war with Iran, why bother to print the comments of someone who speaks rather plainly of how to avoid war?
For more years than I’m prepared to admit, I’ve been reading the speeches and Friday “sermons” by Iran’s Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani. When Rafsanjani speaks, I’ve listened and taken volumes of notes..
I have nearly all of Rafsanjani’s major speeches and Friday “sermons” since the early days of the Iranian Revolution. I have them in translation, thanks to what used to be the indispensible US Government “Foreign Broadcast Information Service” (now fledgling as the “Open Source Center”). I tracked Rafsanjani’s comments first as Parliamentary Speaker, as Khomeini’s designate in the latter stages of the war with Iraq, as President, as Chairman of Iran’s rather unique “Council for the Discernment of Expediency” (e.g., the “fixers”), and in a half dozen other roles, including top vote recipient in last November’s elections for Iran’s Assembly of Experts.
In 1985, I started analyzing and writing about what Hans Morgenthau would have seen as a “realist” streak in Rafsanjani. My first major oped was about Rafsanjani and his fellow “pragmatists” in 1989 – for the Christian Science Monitor. I later published a biographical sketch of him.
To be sure, Rafsanjani is very much of the Islamic Revolution in Iran; yet he’s also been a key articulator, at least since 1983, of the need for that revolution to adjust its “Islamic” message in light of the needs of Iran’s interests. Indeed, I’ve just learned that Iran’s Center for Strategic Research, a think tank of the Expediency Council and close to Rafsanjani will entitle its newest journal as, “National Interest.” For fellow interenational relations theorists out there, this too is news, as it should also be to those still thinking that it’s “ideology” alone that drives Iran’s foreign policy.
I kept reading Rafsanjani, even when his popularity waned badly inside Iran. He’s gone from being cast aside as too conservative by reformists to now being at the forefront of a multi-faction coalition of reformists, pragmatic “technocrats,” and “conservatives,” candidly formed to stop and reverse the damage caused by Iran’s current President Ahmadinejad.
As such, Rafsajanjani too has a phoenix-like quality. (Yet unlike Chalabi) Rafsanjani’s sources of power and support are more easily recognized. When Rafsajani or his lieutenants speak or make “grand bargain” offers, we indeed should be taking him very seriously. (Take notes Condi — you apparently chose to ignore Rafsanjani’s “grand bargain” in 2003, among the worst mistakes of your career!)
With that in mind, I offer the ending two sections of a political sermon delivered by Rafsanjani on Friday. In my view, AP mischaracterized the speech as essentially saying the same thing as current President Ahmadinejad. Read the text yourself: note especially the ending paragraphs.

Note on this translation:Ordinarily, I would have posted the translation from our taxpayer funded “Open Source Center” – (FBIS). Yet when I first started working on this post, I only had the BBC World Service version (funded by the British taxpayers), which, by the way, is usually identical to the OSC version. The decades long FBIS/OSC/BBC relationship is still not admitted publicly, perhaps to guard the BBC’s reputation, but it’s widely known. The subheadings below are by the BBC.


On divide and rule policy of West

Fifthly [we turn our attention to] the divisive policies of Global Arrogance against the world of Islam and particularly Iran and Shi’ism. This is very important. If I had had a chance I would have presented you with a history of this policy of divide and rule by the Arrogant Powers in the past two centuries. This [divide and rule] has always been the underlying feature of their policies, even the geographic divisions which they have implemented after the [Great War] in our region. It was about setting one religion, confession, tribe or country against another so that these groups stretch their hand of need towards their foreign masters in order to triumph over their rivals and always be dependent on them. This way, instead cooperation, these countries’ forces are there to neutralize each other. This is their official policy.
Arabs have a short saying, divide and rule [preceding words in Arabic, followed by Farsi translation]. This is a very ill-omened, inhumane and unethical policy that they [the West] used to have. They have now returned to this policy. There might be a number of reasons for that approach. First of all, the Islamic movement has gained a momentum after the victory and stability of the Islamic Revolution. This has seriously raised their [West] concern. Over 1.5 billion people with 57 or 58 independent states, holding the most strategic regions and energy resources of the world, have turned into a practical rival for them.

America’s plan for a unipolar world

They [West] do not want this great power to rise, although it has been humiliated and weakened for years. This has been their principle policy.
After the Soviet Union’s disintegration the Americans started thinking about making the world uni-polar. To do so, they decided to have a more influential presence in the Middle East which is the source of energy for the world. That is what Bush’s Greater Middle East Plan is all about. Especially after 11 September, Bush’s foreign policy has been mainly focused on this. He described some important countries in the region as the axis of evil, and his main target was Iran. That is, as I said, because he considers Iran as the new driving force for Islamic independence and fighting against blasphemy. That is why he emphasized more on this [Iran].
This plan failed. The explanation is long. They [America] first came talking about democracy. They said that all the countries in the Middle East should be democratic and the people should have the right to vote. After some time, they realized that they will lose their best friends in the region, because most of those countries have no elections. They [the leaders of America’s friends in region] either inherit the power or come to power by other [undemocratic] means. So, they gave up on this (democracy).

Ulema should stop Shi’i-Sunni division

The peak of this could be seen during Doha congress. Muslim ulema, the majority of whom were members of the Forum for the Proximity of Islamic Denominations, talked against each other in the congress. This is a cause for concern. Terrible fatwas were issued and bad things were said.
Those who care for the Islamic ummah are now thinking of preventing this ominous move. Some time ago, the eminent leader of the Islamic Revolution in a speech condemned the differences between Shi’is and Sunnis and invited them to unite. This is exactly what we used to do on the basis of the order of Imam [Khomeyni] from the outset of the revolution. We set up a unity week and we still celebrate it every year. The same policy has now been stressed by the eminent leader.
A group of caring members of the Union of the Ulema of Islamic World have now taken action and have contacted the Forum for the Proximity of Islamic Denominations. They also came to Iran and discussed the need for the caring ulema to stop the conspiracy.
Accordingly, it was decided that I should have a debate with Mr Qarzawi, who is one of the prominent Sunni ulema and the head of the union. He has always been supportive of the Islamic Revolution. But some intended to involve him in this issue [division of Shi’is and Sunnis]. We therefore had a live debate on Al-Jazeera TV.
Based on the reports that I have received from the other side those concerned are now happy and say that our debate was like water poured on fire. However, they stress that similar measures should continue.

(Via the delic. sidebar, Helena flagged the Aardvark’s blog on this debate, broadcast on al-Jazeera.)
On Muslims’ unity

I demand the great scholars, the writers and the media of the Shi’i, Sunni and other [Islamic] sects to pay attention to the greatness and importance of the matter. In the current situation, should the enemy be successful in planting the seed of division among different Islamic sects or even other religions, it will control us easily.
So, we have to maintain our unity. The extremists should be careful about what they say. Even a simple word can create a great problem for the Islamic world these days. They have to be cautious not to make the enemy happy. We should not say things that they [enemy] wish to hear from us and serve their interest.
Of course there are disagreements between all sects and religions. In Shi’ism itself you can see that our scholars disagree over some issues. For example, in the months of Muharram and Ramadan there is not a consensus over the moon crescent. Such issues exist. The scholars sometimes reach different conclusions. The Shi’i and Sunni scholars disagree on principles and many issues. But these disagreements are all acceptable. They [disagreements] can bring intellectual maturity. Disagreements can be caused when a theory is expressed. Should it [the theory] be wrong, it must be solved through dialogue. We should not turn them into a cause of division. The most important task for the Islamic Ummah is to be united and to cooperate in breaking the dangerous spell of the infidels’ control over the Islamic world.

US policies to divide Muslims in Iraq

Then they decided to achieve their objectives by the use of force. They started their work from Iraq and Afghanistan. However, they are now in this unpleasant situation. They wanted to fish something from the sea. Now they have themselves been caught in the net. They should now watch not to fall prey to other creatures like the fish in this big ocean of the Middle East. They are now stuck in a quagmire and entangled in a trap. They are trying to find a way out.
We see that there are ominous signs of difference between Shi’is and Sunnis. This is very bad. Those responsible for such differences may be the occupiers or some extremists, who are mainly members of takfiri movements [holding other Muslims to be infidel] and who actually perpetrate the crimes.
Radicals of both sides [Shi’is and Sunnis] have begun to fight each other. Shi’is are however only reciprocating. But takfiris, Ba’thists and some others are fighting for other reasons. The events that take place in Iraq do not make anyone happy. It is not good to see people being pulled out from their houses at night, beheaded and thrown out in the streets. The bin-men gather 50 to 60 dead bodies every morning from the streets. Some blow up mosques or holy shrines like the one in Samarra. Some blast bombs in marketplaces. Some even detonate bombs among pilgrims in Karbala, Kazimiyah or Najaf. You can see that all these are taking place.
These are all detestable deeds which adversely affect the dignity of Islam. The Americans are now using these events, for which they are responsible, to divide Shi’is and Sunnis.

Powers should abandon bullying, preconditions

The other issue which I would like to mention briefly is the Zahedan incident.

(note from s.h. – this refers to recent clash in Baluchistan, in southeastern Iran, which Iran has blamed in part on elements operating from Pakistan. Iran has reason to suspect US hands as well, in part as neoconservative outlets – AEI & WINEP for starters – have been hawking the idea that the US should be supporting, if not creating, ethnic and tribal rebels on Iran’s margins.)

This incident demonstrates how very few individuals, who have lost themselves, commit a terrorist act in such circumstances, create such a problem for their country, and kill their own people on the street. Of course this plot has its source abroad, we all know this and there are documents to prove it. We, all have to be vigilant and careful wherever we are. These days our enemies may think that they can achieve their objectives by making the country insecure, particularly around the borders. This is another version of their attempts to create divide.

And lastly, on the nuclear issue, unfortunately the bullies of the world do not abandon their behaviour. Following the report by the Secretary-general of the IAEA yesterday, they once again started a harsh approach accompanied with threats indicating that they are thinking about issuing another resolution. I tell them directly, they will not get results by going along this route. This approach will result in nothing other than creating problems for them, for the world and particularly for our region.

To be sure, Iranian leaders have yet again picked up on the theme complaining about American “bullying” tactics. They’re hardly alone; even the New York Times at the beginning of February could see it clearly.
Let’s negotiate
The right way is that you [West] give up your bullying preconditions and forget them and we all return to the negotiations table. Your main point is that you do not trust Iran and cannot make sure Tehran will not use the [nuclear] technology in military industries. We are ready to reassure you completely. All of us, all our officials and our leader [Ayatollah Khamene’i], are certain that if we enter talks under the right conditions, you will be convinced that Iran has no plan other than the peaceful implication of the technology, which is what you [West] consider to be our right. We have already proved this in practice on many occasions. We are not deluded and do not take any action that will benefit no-one. Using weapons of mass destruction is against Iran’s principles and our ideology rejects it.
Therefore, I think, if you continue your bullying approach, you will definitely create many problems for yourself, the world and the region. [Crowd chants God is great] Peace and God’s mercy be upon you.
Source: Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Tehran, in Persian 0835 gmt 23 Feb 07

15 thoughts on “Rafsanjani: “Let’s negotiate””

  1. Seymour Hersh: Negroponte–Iran Contra—Funds–al Qaeda…Oh my!
    Sy Hersh tells us that the echos of Iran Contra weighed heavily in Negroponte’s decision to resign his post and is claiming that Bush is funneling money without authorization or oversight that has ended up in the hands of Sunni jihadist groups.
    The President is taking his notion of executive privilege to the extreme—-running covert operations, using money that’s not authorized by Congress…Negroponte is too ethical for Cheney…

    SEYMOUR HERSH,, GEORGE BUSH AND HULAGU KHAN

  2. “Too ethical? Negroponte? Wow!”
    Too concerned about future criminal prosecution would be more like it. This is what makes Cheney uniquely dangerous. He has nothing to lose. Not only does he have no political future after 2008, he probably has no future period. His next heart attack will likely be his last, and it could happen anytime. He is determined to go out with a bang. Negroponte has no more ethics or morals than Dick, but he’d like to think he has a future beyond this administration.

  3. FYI, more “divide and conquer” — this time of Iran itself. (from Sunday’s Independent)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=HDZB2432Z4F1LQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/02/25/wiran25.xml
    And if your head isn’t hurting enough, try this one from the London Times — that top US generals have threatened to resign if the order comes down to invade Iran. I’m suspicious of this story — reads like a “neocon-plant” to “out” them, or intimidate them….. to force them to commit their “honor” to drinking the koolaid…. I’ll send this one to pat lang…
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece

  4. Truesdell,
    The article (I would have called it something else if I could) you have posted is so stupid that it would have been too illogical to have been written by “Neo-con Central” or “The Nile-to-Euphrates Propaganda Office” if those establishments had indeed existed.
    “Immediate neighbours —including, Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia — have not felt sufficiently threatened by its arsenal to reciprocate.” Could this possibly be due to the simple fact that those countries are run by tyrants who all happen to be US puppets? And their masses feel threatened indeed.
    “Not even Israel’s most ardent critics, and there are plenty of them, can point to a single instance where it has brandished these weapons, as some have done — North Korea springs to mind — to bully, cajole, or blackmail others.” You must be kidding me? I suggest he (and you) do some reading. Start from Ben Ami’s memoirs. And some Benny Morris too.
    “there are good reasons why it is acceptable for Israel to have nuclear weapons but not for Iran.” Are we allowed to laugh out loud to this one?!
    “Israel is a stable democracy. It is not likely to collapse from internal revolution. Iran, on the other hand, is an unstable autocratic state. It could collapse at any stage, as it did in 1979. What would happen to its nuclear weapons in an internal revolution? Would they fall into the hands of terrorists?” Was his incredible stability the reason why they were arming the Shah with nuclear capabilities? [or simply because he was also a pro-Western pro-Israel puppet?] Is instability and serial coups the reason why they are sanctioning Pakistan left-and-right? Was SA’s instability the reason that the US and Israel were so afraid of its nuclear program?
    “Iran goes nuclear, other states may follow suit. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Turkey all feel threatened by a powerful Iran that could make a bid for hegemony in the Gulf. Western security guarantees may help keep them from responding in kind but there is a real risk that the situation may deteriorate and lead to a new round of proliferation.” So Israel’s arsenal of 200+ warheads is not a stimulus for regional proliferation, but Iran’s hypothetical 3 warheads in 5 or 10 years is? Hmmmm ?
    “An arms race unprecedented in history, half the world enslaved behind the Soviet deterrent, and multiple crises; this is not an experience we should willingly recreate.” So now Iran is the next USSR? How logical! Remember HK said 2 weeks ago, Iran is only a weak third world country that likes to bluff? Maybe we should tell Henry of Iran’s new super-power status, with half the world enslaved behind Iran’s “Shiite bomb” deterrent!?
    “Rafsanjani, now seen as a moderate by comparison, stated in October 2000 that “in a nuclear duel in the region, Israel may kill 100 million Muslims. Muslims can sustain such casualties knowing that in exchange there would be no Israel left on the map” Another great quote, when taken out of context. The first half of the sentence was, “The Israelis should stop brandishing their weapons for blackmail and to gain points, because that will only force the region into an arms race, and then in a nuclear duel …” It does change the meaning when you don’t delete the half of the sentence that doesn’t suit your point, doesn’t it?

  5. David, the “The Nile-to-Euphrates Propaganda Office” is located in Damascus not Cambridge Mass.
    As the article points out, Israel’s nuclear capability is way older than Iran’s nuclear program (it’s older than the NPT iself, let alone Iran’s signature thereupon). So it must be the slowest moving “stimulus for regional proliferation” in history.

  6. whoopsie daisy… my tag should have linked here:
    http://www.ssnp.com/
    This is the only regional political party angling for one state from the Nile to the Euphrates. FYI they’re a core element in Lebanon’s “opposition.”

  7. Vadim,
    “The Nile-to-Euphrates Propaganda Office” was a joke, of course, as the subsequent phrase “if those establishments had indeed existed” clearly shows. It is the venue where the Elders of Zion hold their monthly congress. I mentioned it as a jab to those who believe in such organized conspiracy theories. Yet, since you have to defend the mothership, even if the “attack” was a joke on the other side, have fun.
    “it must be the slowest moving “stimulus for regional proliferation” in history.” Nope, afraid not. This is another one of those classic spurious arguments. A war in the early 50s in a certain peninsula became the stimulus for nuclear proliferation, that lead to a blast a few months ago. I am sure you understand that geopolitical influences are not exactly like test tube experiments; they often require decades to show the appropriate result. But then, in defense of the mothership, what is a spurious argument or two?
    [You are free to have fun with the “mothership” joke too.]

  8. I’m glad that ” Nile-to-Euphrates” was a joke. Unfortunately to the SSNP –card-carrying members of “the global resistance”*– it’s their admitted agenda.
    I’m not sure how the Korean war could be seen as the “stimulus” for North Korea’s nuclear bomb, except in the respect that one historical event (the last UN-sanctioned war) preceded the other (a widely recognized breach of international law) by over half a century. I also doubt that the US revolution “stimulated” the US civil war, which for its part didn’t “stimulate” WW I etc. But I’d agree the time frames and moral issues compare well.
    I bet it’s tempting to imagine that “the hegemon” stimulates all political events across the centuries. One baby step from post hoc to prime mover. Maybe you’re a Calvinist?
    *defined for these purposes as “anyone who hates USrael, all welcome”

  9. Vadim, I remember when you used to sneer at the frequent use of scare quotes around here. In that respect, it seems you’ve gone native.

  10. In negotiating with Iran, we will have to decide what we can get from them, and what we will have to give in return. I believe the answer to the first part is nothing and the second part is everything. Sounds like detente

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